Have you seen this 3 minute clip of Prince William and Catherine presenting their newborn baby to the world?

To my mind, two extremely privileged people have had a child. All being well, little Prince George will one day be king. That's it; I'm quite neutral about it. So I must admit to feeling shocked by the reaction of the public outside the hospital. All the whooping and cheering seemed to border on the hysterical to me (it's certainly a new spin on the fact that the word 'hysteria' comes from 'hystera', meaning 'womb'..).

If anything I thought George should have been greeted with a hushed silence so as not to frighten the poor mite....

The fervour of the crowd is suggestive of something deeper here - such as a myth or ritual playing out.

What do you think of the footage? Are you reminded of a myth? What ritual do you think is being played out here?



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Comment by Mr. Jeffery J. Rahn on August 20, 2013 at 8:23pm

When our daughter was born ( middle) her Mother became fierce about keeping people at a distance. I don't think she took her grocery shopping for several months ( I was the valet). My mother was shocked at how fierce my then wife could be. In retrospect I'm glad she had such a protective nature. Our daughter also is tough like her Mom on the outside and warm on the inside (tender heart) 

 Goofy stuff if you ask me. I wonder what my Mormon Grandmother, Azalea Catherine Bastian  ( b. 1902) would have to say? She was irritated about living on a ranch in Utah in the 1920's miles away from town or a doctor. With little kids.

My Grandfather, good guy but naive would romanticize ranching but Grandmother knew the realities. Later when the kids were grown and my Dad bought them their first washer & dryer, dish washing machine, double wide refrigerator with ice maker, color tv ( my Father was the second largest appliance retailer in the Chicago land area) etc.  There after my Grandmother let my Grandfather know he'd be making his own breakfast and lunch.    

Comment by Esther Waldron on August 13, 2013 at 3:47am

Thank you, Ed. I agree with Judith: that's a rule to live by :)

I"ve learned a lot from all responses on this topic. Thank you all for contributing.

Comment by Judith Harte,Ph.D. on August 9, 2013 at 6:34pm

Ed, well put indeed! 'Ya gotta watch out for those libidinal energies......

Comment by Ed Koffenberger on August 9, 2013 at 6:25pm

I think consciousness is a good focus point here. Those unconscious of the archetypal images inherent in the Royalty construct can be swept away in the libidinal energies (Jungian definition) expressed in joy. Not that those who were deeply moved by the event can't be conscious, its the conscious shedding of a tear that is transformative rather than the reactivity of the crowds. The unconscious expression will soon die away as other archetypal energies will demand their time. Only those who have consciously attended to the event and its archetypal nature (as if a dream) will gain more than a surface, passive emotional expression.

Comment by Aleksandar Malecic on August 9, 2013 at 1:49pm

@Esther Waldron " the kiss of consciousness to wake it from its slumber" Though I understand what you meant to say, it still reminds me of something that Ken Wilber has written somewhere about spiritual awakening. It doesn't look to me as a one-directional process. It's more like forgetting something in order to understand something else. We can hardly ever be sure that one specific approach to hierarchy or consciousness is superior, an improvement to everything before. I might disagree and hate the fact that there have always been leaders (elected, born as leaders, or successful businesspeople) on one side and expendable mortals on the other. But, I know nothing about horizontal societies, spirituality out of control, and individualism and their long-term effects. Hierarchy and idolatry may "at the moment" be a bad thing, but what is the alternative?

Comment by Esther Waldron on August 9, 2013 at 7:08am

Thank you so much for the comments so far.

Judith - Thank you for your reply. Your reaction to the video is touching :) The comment about the holy family absolutely touches on one of my concerns.. Certainly in the UK press Catherine is being given a role akin to the mother of God - for example, on a visit to a hospital she interacted with a child and the published comments were along the lines of her having 'healed' the child by her presence. And ultimately how can any mortal - which members of royalty are - live up to such a projection?

Shane - Thank you for your comment also. Yes I agree, royalty is so archetypal in nature! I suppose I see the footage as evidence of some sort of mass projection of archetypes onto a literal prince and princess, rather than the public doing the inner work of seeking those archetypes within...

For me the footage is an example of why the work of an organisation such as the Depth Psychology Alliance is so vital. It has the potential to educate a whole society, so it can learn to separate out the literal from the symbolic...To my eyes it's as though a whole culture is asleep, like Sleeping Beauty, and requires the kiss of consciousness to wake it from its slumber...  

Comment by Shane M. Nygaard on August 8, 2013 at 6:23am

Royalty is so Archetypal in nature, and for me seeing this real-life embodiment of the Archetypal dynamic of Prince and Princess bringing a Prince-and-possible-future-King into the world is one of the grandest mythologies brought to life.  It's SO very Archetypal I imagine it pleases many souls to see it play out in true Archetypal fashion.
I would say, the thing with it is, not every individual is particularly animated by the Archetypes of Royalty, Princes, Princesses, Kings, Queens, Knights, Chivalry, Palaces (or Castles), the Changing of the Guard, etc., and the deep, rich history and heritage of it all.  In those for whom that imagery is real and a fantasy of theirs, it's truly a thrill to see it played out so beautifully.  As an Archetypal pattern, it certainly plays out in peoples' lives whether or not they are literal royalty, and that is what brings the thrill because it's something that speaks to the soul, and the imagination.  I must be one of those people, as I find it pretty darn cool. 

Astrologically as well, their charts each play out to the dominant Archetypal themes connected with royalty, so it's tough for me to dismiss something that has such a history, such a visible pattern to it, and seeing that pattern come to life.  Who knows exactly how it will play out as the world progresses as it is, but this clearly taps into an Archetypal pattern that goes back generations, and therefore connects with some of the deepest, richest places within many people living in today's world.

Comment by Aleksandar Malecic on August 8, 2013 at 4:29am

@Judith Harte,Ph.D. It’s a beautiful thing when a young couple has a baby, but I really don’t understand the fuss. Like I said in my previous comment, all I can see there is a living purposeless fossil still alive because even the actors of that circus have to be brave in order to choose whom to marry and have sex with. It’s like a fairytale that perhaps had some purpose back in the day, but today it looks to me as a reminder how much we are collectively stuck and directionless. It reminds me that perhaps Obama (espionage and drones) shouldn’t be hated by liberal individuals for not being willing to find the new way of thinking and behaving, but rather perceived as a little pathetic piece of nothing. But, he is still dangerous. 

Comment by Judith Harte,Ph.D. on August 7, 2013 at 10:48pm

Interesting Esther.  I was surprised at my reaction. I wept, and wept and wept.  It seemed so archetypal to me . Like the holy family. The archetypal trinity.  So pure, so sweet, so untouched by the ravages of whatever real life must and will become for them from here on. I like what seems to me to rather like an everyday courage.   I'm very drawn to Prince Charles. I love  his wit, his humor, etc. I Ioved that he finally broke with convention, and  married he woman he always loved. William and Kate seem more courageous, yet still classy while contemporary.

Comment by Esther Waldron on August 7, 2013 at 2:30am

Dear Aleksander,

Thank you for commenting. I agree that royalty, and in particular this royal couple, are being 'celebritised' by the press and public. The question then would be what psychological function is being played by such people in the spotlight.

In case the embedded video doesn't work for all, here's a direct link to it:





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