United Nations Climate Czar reveals depopulation plan for humanity 
https://www.intellihub.com/united-nations-climate-czar-reveals-depopulation...

(INTELLIHUB) —At a recent Climate One conference, the Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, Christiana Figueres, made clear that a leading solution to global warming includes extreme depopulation. 

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The rise of communism in Russia did not lead to the inception of the brotherhood of man but the red terror. The idealists were run over by an unspeakable darkness. So too the environmental movement has its own grotesque shadow lurking just beyond the event horizon. Idealists on the environmental front must be vigilant against the likes of Prince Phillip who have publicly proclaimed we could have the kingdom of heaven on earth if only the population was reduced to a few hundred million. He also wished he could reincarnate as an virus so he could come back and get rid of a large swath of the populace. For some environmentalism is just a code word for population reduction and resources wars. Idealists must always be aware that they are not always dancing with the stars.

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Comment by klemens swib on April 20, 2015 at 9:43am

With the exception of the US most of the industrialized nations of the world are experiencing rapidly declining populations. In Japan and Russia this is especially the case. America is the exception but only because they have opened to their borders to immigrants. Prosperity breeds selfishness and the desire to focus on ones own interests to the exclusion of focusing on breeding families. .This is what is decimating the indigenous population base in most industrial societies. I just saw a stat that Japanese pensioners out number japanese children under 14   by a very large number...Something like by 5x. I wish i noted the link for this one liner. 

Large families in the developing nations are more a function of the high mortality rates. The family needs many hands to ensure its survival. Well that may be a simplification but that is an avenue that will lead you to an understanding of the over population problem. 

I posted this blog item to point out the distinction between environmental idealism and materialistic madness and lust that may shadow it and prevail if the idealists in the environmental movement drop their guard. Scientists who deliberately falsified temperature data to create their hockey stick chart to demonstrate the existence of global warming were never fired for their fraudulent  behavior. They kept their pensions and jobs because their toadyism and premeditated prevarications were supported by those who were planning to create a trillion $$$ business around the carbon trade. If science can be damned so cavalierly then the idealists in the environmental movement have a tough row to hoe to accomplish their very worthy objectives. 

Comment by Holly Esch on April 20, 2015 at 12:38am
A guy once told me that to solve world overpopulation we should encourage all post menopausal women to commit suicide and pointed to their high suicide rate as nature's way of removing them from the competition for resources when they can no longer contribute to the gene pool. He compared it to living in a tiny Manhattan micro apartment. "With so little space, the moment something's no longer useful, you get rid of it."

I gave him one of my "Are you for real?!!" looks and countered with "So you'd really tell a 50 year old cancer researcher to kill herself just because she can no longer have children?"

He looked me straight in the eye.

"You really don't think there's hundreds if not thousands of 30 year old women doing the exact same thing?"

Oh he was a peach. Really. When I met him he was single. If there's justice in the Universe, he still is.

But the elephant in the room isn't that we're having too many children -- far from it. Most prefer to limit their family size or forgo having children entirely. The problem is that we're living too long and not dying off in great enough numbers, and we're competing against each other harder and harder for less and less, be it jobs or, increasingly, water. It's easier to think about limiting births because those people don't exist yet, rather than the cruel choices real people may need to make if Earth truly becomes overcrowded. And it's even more difficult to discuss how things like money, age, sex, class, life choices, and all sorts of circumstances beyond our control will factor into who gets what.

That's why I asked how hard you would fight to live forever, or even just live. I think this is why we have books like "The Hunger Games," where people are thrown into an arena and forced to fight to the death.

Then again, an asteroid could take us out and all this worrying will be for naught.

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Comment by klemens swib on April 19, 2015 at 10:40pm

The spirit is eternal Holly. As to what that ultimately means, your guess is as good as mine. My emphasis here is definitely on guess huh? Reintegration with the self? I suppose I will be working on it until my last breath, whether I know it or not I suppose. 

Comment by Holly Esch on April 19, 2015 at 8:31pm
...and if others wanted that chance to live forever too, how hard would you fight for it?
Comment by Holly Esch on April 19, 2015 at 8:28pm
If someone offered you the chance to live forever, would you take it?


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