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I'd like to invite others to share responses and experiences as we delve together into Jung's Red Book.  We'll begin at the start of Liber Primus and work through the Red Book ten pages a week sharing personal responses to Jung's grand experiment.

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Special Study Group: Jung's Red Book with Jungian Analyst Robert Bosnak Starts January 19, 2013

Started by Bonnie Bright. Last reply by Michael Harkins Jan 19, 2013. 1 Reply

In case you haven't seen the news, there is a several-months-long…Continue

Tags: robert bosnak, bosnak, red book, jung

Red Book Audio Recording

Started by Tamara Long. Last reply by Bianca Daalder-van Iersel Jan 1, 2013. 2 Replies

I've been enjoying an audio recording called Introducing Jung's Red Book.  It's quite thorough and entertaining as well.  By Stephan Hoeller.  Can be ordered at …Continue

Rose Holt VIDEO on how Jung wrestled with the scathing voice of the critic in writing the Red Book

Started by Bonnie Bright. Last reply by Remo F. Roth, PhD Dec 3, 2012. 7 Replies

Just came across a very interesting video by Jungian Rose F. Holt. In it, she discusses how Jung really wrestled with an inner critic during the writing of the Red Book--a scathing voice that really…Continue

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Favorite quote from the first sections of Red Book?

Started by Tamara Long. Last reply by Tamara Long Mar 28, 2011. 4 Replies

"I speak because the spirit robs me of joy and life if I do not speak."  (230)  Because I find this to be so true for me, I want to invite all of us to speak to how the spirit of the depths enriches…Continue

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Comment by Colin Amato on August 3, 2013 at 2:19pm

Has anyone read "Reading the Red Book" by Sanford L Drob? I just picked up a copy and was curious what others thought of it. Thanks! 

Comment by Tamara Long on January 7, 2013 at 2:39pm

Hi Peter,

Follow this link to get to Robert Bosnak's study group.  It should be fascinating!

(http://www.depthpsychologyalliance.com/events/special-study-group-j...) starting January 19, 2013. This consists of audio portion with Robert which you listen to plus a correlating study guide; then an online written forum discussion moderated by Robert and two individuals who have studied with him for years.

Comment by Peter Scanlan on January 7, 2013 at 12:17pm

Hello.  I am wondering if this is the place for the for the special study group, starting Jan 12 for those who are taking Robert Bosnak's 20 session, 40 week seminar on the Red Book?  If not, could someone direct me there?

Thank you, Peter Scanlan

Comment by Tamara Long on April 27, 2012 at 7:41am

“Can you not wait?  Should everything fall into your lap ripe and finished?  You are full, yes, you teem with intentions and desirousness!---Do you still not know that the way to truth stands open only to those without intentions?  . . . .  We should grow like a tree that likewise does not know its law.  We tie ourselves up with intentions, not mindful of the fact that intention is the limitation, yes the exclusion of life.  We believe that we can illuminate the darkness with an intention, and in that way aim past the light.  How can we presume to want to know in advance, from where the light will come to us.”  Red Book, pgs. 236, 237

 

For me, these are therapeutic lines that help loosen my ego’s demand that I have a 5 year plan, a 10 year plan, a plan for my whole damn life in order to not waste the precious time I’ve been given.  Brings to mind lines from David Whyte’s poem “What to Remember When Waking”,

 

What you can plan

is too small

for you to live.

 

What you can live

wholeheartedly

will make plans

enough . . . 

Comment by Tamara Long on March 16, 2012 at 9:37am

I think when Jung says nothing happened after the uniting of opposites, he's highlighting the necessity of psychic tension for growth to occur.  And also that there really is no true uniting of opposites as that would obliterate the opposites and nullify the term. He sometimes speaks of holding the tension of the opposites which may be as close as most of us will get and even then, we'll only hold the tension of some of the opposites within our psyche, certainly never all.  I don't know how this awareness changed Jung's physical world.  What would we be looking for here?  Holding the tension, for me, has certainly changed my perception.  

Comment by Tamara Long on March 14, 2012 at 3:34pm

So true, Kay.  I'm sure all of us on this site are on inner journeys with similarities to that described by Jung in Red Book.  As for bringing the opposing energies to peace, I'm reminded of an intriguing observation on pg. 319 of RB:

" . . . after the opposites had been united, quite unexpectedly and incomprehensibly, nothing further happened.  Everything remained in place, peacefully and yet completely motionless, and life turned into a complete standstill."

Comment by David O'Rose on March 5, 2012 at 12:06pm

Life's nonsense pierces us with strange relation.

—from "Notes Towards a Supreme Fiction" by Wallace Stevens

Comment by Tamara Long on March 3, 2012 at 7:04am

Yes, the paradox Jung so often speaks to helps break things up a bit for me.  The quote on nonsense being the brother to supreme meaning got me thinking about my tendency to disregard life's "chatter", input that for whatever reason seems superfluous to me.  Especially in reviewing my dream journal though, I've noticed that images and/or scenes that I'd hesitated to even write down because they didn't seem like they "fit", later in the context of further dreams turn out to be significant.  I wonder about how much this happens in other aspects of life -- when "chatter" is overlooked or ignored but really may contain true gold.

Comment by David O'Rose on March 1, 2012 at 11:29am

Could it be that the statement of Jung's itself is nonsense?  Now, how would we feel in pursuing the topic?

We can get attached to supreme meaning and symbol. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

A full moon is not a meaningful symbol of wholeness, it's a full moon and that's enough. We respond to it whether we have read Jung or not.

I think Jung helps us break the spell of ego identifications by bringing in paradox so frequently. It can send us nuts but in a good way :)

Comment by Julie Ann Perkins on March 1, 2012 at 9:54am

What a great way Jung has with words, thank you for the inquiry, Tamara.

"Nonsense is the inseparable and undying brother of the supreme meaning."

I guess one could ask: What part of us is resonating with the words we are reading? Was there an intention set before sitting down to read something like the Red Book? What filters are we aware of?  I know that I have many blinders on.

One idea is to make room for the whole of it, maybe to be open to what is numinous in our interaction with Jung's journey and images as we read...

 

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