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ARCHIVED—Red Book Buffs

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I'd like to invite others to share responses and experiences as we delve together into Jung's Red Book.  We'll begin at the start of Liber Primus and work through the Red Book ten pages a week sharing personal responses to Jung's grand experiment.

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Special Study Group: Jung's Red Book with Jungian Analyst Robert Bosnak Starts January 19, 2013

Started by Bonnie Bright. Last reply by Michael Harkins Jan 19, 2013. 1 Reply

In case you haven't seen the news, there is a several-months-long…Continue

Tags: robert bosnak, bosnak, red book, jung

Red Book Audio Recording

Started by Tamara Long. Last reply by Bianca Daalder-van Iersel Jan 1, 2013. 2 Replies

I've been enjoying an audio recording called Introducing Jung's Red Book.  It's quite thorough and entertaining as well.  By Stephan Hoeller.  Can be ordered at …Continue

Rose Holt VIDEO on how Jung wrestled with the scathing voice of the critic in writing the Red Book

Started by Bonnie Bright. Last reply by Remo F. Roth, PhD Dec 3, 2012. 7 Replies

Just came across a very interesting video by Jungian Rose F. Holt. In it, she discusses how Jung really wrestled with an inner critic during the writing of the Red Book--a scathing voice that really…Continue

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Favorite quote from the first sections of Red Book?

Started by Tamara Long. Last reply by Tamara Long Mar 28, 2011. 4 Replies

"I speak because the spirit robs me of joy and life if I do not speak."  (230)  Because I find this to be so true for me, I want to invite all of us to speak to how the spirit of the depths enriches…Continue

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Comment by Bonnie Bright on March 26, 2011 at 6:16pm
Thanks Tamara. I've been wishing for a good focused Red Book group here in the community with a passionate leader and I'm sorry it's taken me a few days to catch up to you and finalize your proposal. And--nothing is a coincidence. The topic just started coming up yesterday very strongly in the Jung in the South group so clearly something is being asked of us here. I hope the discussion continues in the Jung in the South groups and that we will all get as much Red Book as we can handle! Looking forward to it all.
Comment by Tamara Long on March 27, 2011 at 10:10am
In the first chapter of "The Way of What is to Come" Jung talks about the spirit of the depths and the spirit of the times.  He says, "The spirit of the time would like to hear of use and value" (229), then on 230, "I had to swallow as a means of healing the immortal in me . . . the pliers of the spirit of the depths held me, and I had to drink the bitterest of draughts."  -------------

I know that I often catch myself deferring to "the spirit of the times" as my justification to avoid swallowing “the bitterest of all draughts”. This spirit lets me spin off into thoughts and theories and avoid what might be needed for true healing. Jung's open admission of his own deep inner contradictions bolsters my strength to face my own depths, even when distasteful.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on the spirit of the depths and the spirit of the times or whatever else grabs you in the first chapter or two of the Red Book.

Comment by Tamara Long on March 27, 2011 at 11:58am



I'm honored you've joined the group!  I think the Red Book conversation is, indeed, an important and extremely valuable one right now.  I'm excited about embarking on a group exploration and am hoping others will agree and join in!

Comment by Dorene Mahoney on March 27, 2011 at 7:57pm
Tamara, I'm thrilled that you've started this group. The Red Book is so rich with insight, that it's a bit overwhelming to tackle by oneself. Thank you for facilitating this topic!
Comment by Tamara Long on March 28, 2011 at 9:10am
Several members have expressed interest in getting involved but aren't sure where to start.  An easy way to get the ball rolling is simply to choose and post a quote from the first few pages of the Red Book.  Maybe write a line or two about how it applies to your life.  I'd love to get thoughts bouncing about how this material is effecting us personally.  Any thoughts are warmly welcomed!
Comment by Tamara Long on March 29, 2011 at 7:14pm

A couple nights ago, I dreamed I was a crippled woman in a hospital bed telling my roommate about the time I won a swimming race. I wrote of the dream in my journal feeling anxious and uneasy, wondering what my crippled body in the dream might be calling my attention to. Later that day, I read in Red Book (231) “Be patient with the crippledness of the world and do not overvalue its consummate beauty.” This bit of advice helped me explore the dream image in a different state of mind. Wondering if anyone else has had a dream they'd like to share while reading Red Book . . .  

Comment by Tamara Long on April 1, 2011 at 11:52am

Coming to the end of week one, I hope some of you will share responses to the first 10 pages of the Red Book. Thought I'd share a short quote from each chapter in the hopes of inciting some conversation.


“The spirit of the time would like to hear of use and value . . . but I did not consider that the spirit of the depths possesses a greater power . . . ”


“It is wise to nourish the soul, otherwise you will breed dragons and devils in your heart.”


“Dreams are guiding words of the soul.”


“If you marry the ordered to the chaos, you produce the divine child, the supreme meaning beyond meaning and meaninglessness.”


“No culture of the mind is enough to make a garden out of your soul.”


“Should everything fall into your lap ripe and finished?”


“Depths and surface should mix so that new life can develop.”



Comment by Loretta Libby Atkins on April 22, 2011 at 12:10pm
Loved Ms. Holt's video on Jung - especially how his unconscious was so ruthless with his perceived sense of himself - his I - it's an arduous journey and not for the faint of heart.
Comment by Tamara Long on April 22, 2011 at 2:57pm
Glad you joined the group.  I liked the video too.  I can relate with the ruthlessness of his unconscious.  Don't know if you are familiar with the enneagram, but I'm a 1. We're known for the relentless inner judge. (Not that I think Jung was a 1).  In the Red Book, Jung talks a lot about his competing drives- the one to immerse himself in studies and the other to open himself to his soul which cares nothing for books and words. I get so much out of his insights into this because its so much easier to read and learn from books than it is to do the deeper, subtle work of soul.  Then I have to be careful not to berate myself for this!
Comment by Adele Tyler on April 23, 2011 at 8:01am
This video affected my own journaling this morning, for I decided to let my inner critic spill its' guts, a bit, thinking about Jung's Scrutinies.  Tamara, your mention of the Enneagram feels like a synchronicity to me, for I have been studying that system this week and realized my inner critic, as a 2, comes out as a voice of shame.  I probably even have shame at still having an inner critic, after years of work on becoming more conscious and doing personal growth work; so to realize that someone as outstanding as Jung struggled with this same sort of negative voice helps me feel less ashamed and more amused, really, at the things my critic has to say.


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