Friends,

I am posting a paper I wrote for Pacifica regarding the phenomenon of Donald Trump. It is an analysis of what is happening from a Jungian perspective, outlining the underlying dynamics of our current environment. I believe we as a country need to look at the implications of Mr. Trump's popularity. We ignore this reality at our own peril. I hope it is useful for anyone inclined to read it.

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I was in the sleeper mode for a while and I guess Klemens the man deserves some support this time.

First and foremost; What does that "Vladimir Putin administration" actually mean? What does make that administration more arrogant and violent than any American administration? He is arrogant and ignorant as much as anyone else. Chechnya does deserve to separate from Russia if and only if they can provide normal life for the people under their rule (and they can't - they were ISIS before ISIS, just like Bosnia and Kosovo). Victoria Nuland is the de facto president of Western Ukraine. Speaking of administrations - who and when did vote for her?

Donald Trump has a disturbing lack of knowledge (or understanding of Persona and Shadow mentioned in that paper talking about foreign "administrations" - a person talking about Shadow while dealing with an enormous Shadow) about some issues. I don't share his emotions about the other and different, but at least he says what other people feel. He hasn't started the war of "civilizations". He has just noticed it. It would be a very, very bad idea to accept potential terrorists after waterboarding in Guantanamo and Abu Graib and imprisonment of Chelsea Manning and Julian Assange.

Aleks

Good to hear from you again. I remember all the foofarah that happened on this board when the barbaric and atrocious charlie Hebdo murders occurred. The condemnations. The outrage. The disbelief that free speech could be murderously assaulted. And rightly so. Barbarians have no place in a civilized society.

I don't really want to get into a political discussion here. I will say the immigration issue is a long standing and disgraceful one in America. The admittance of many many millions of Illegal migrants into America is part of an inhuman predatory and planned systematic program designed to supply corporate america and its farming community especially with a cheap and compliant labor force. This worked well when the illegal migrants were taking the menial jobs that americans didn't necessarily want. It does not work so well when the migrants start encroaching on the jobs of the blue collar and middle class America. The illegal migration problem is in large part destroying the economic foundations of the blue collar and middle class america. And this is making many Americans very angry.

There are currently about 93 million adult americans that cannot find a job. 93 MILLION. John Williams of shadow stats says the real unemployment rate is 22.9%. There are about 48 million Americans living on food stamps. The lines for food would be much longer and shocking than the food stamp lines seen in the depression, if not for the cosmetic effect allowing the needy to use their convenient shopping stores as a place to pick up their food. That makes the american economic tragedy invisible to some. And so they can live in la la land with all their pretensions and outright delusionary castles of civility in the sky intact. TRUMP SAYS THIS IS A PROBLEM AND I WILL DEAL WITH IT. 

Meanwhile out and out psychopaths get a free pass in the media.  Hilary Clinton the destroyer of the most prosperous nation in Africa laughed like a jackal when she heard some barbaric moron murdered khaddafy by shoving a knife up his ass. This is grounds for incarceration into a mental institution for the criminally insane.

Libya by the way was the most propserous country in Africa. Education was free for all. Libya would pay full freight for its best and brightest in any  university in the world. They had full medicare. Libyan citizens would be sent anywhere in the world that was necessary if they needed extraordinary medical procedures or attention. Every initial newly wedding couple was given $60,000 US to build a new home for themselves as a wedding present. That was the cost of building a new house in libya at the time. And then a mentally deranged haywire playing imaginary power games went in there on the pretext of giving the libyans freedom and democracy like we have and she destroyed that country completely. it is now an anarchic ungovernable state. The idiotic purveyors of freedom and democracy then took their psychopathic show on to the Ukraine and Syria. Some people like the media are so insular and naive that they can easily focus on their little material bubble of prosperity whilst keeping their heads firmly planted in the sand like ostriches. America is falling apart all around us. The economy is in a shambles and the politicians have done nothing to restore the it for the last eight years. The  political system is so corrupt that the special interests fully control them. Trump may not be able to solve the fiasco the establishment has created. It is very late in the day for the american economy especially. But he will try to make america great again....Nobody else has the intention of trying to do so. The corruption is so complete.

Hi Klemens - it is good that this topic is getting attention from our membership and I am grateful members, those knowing relevant facts and details, are stating and sharing same with the community at-large.  Thanks to you and Aleks for engaging with each other and sharing your views.  Peace + Love Linda 

One of great loves is Ice Hockey. I had a scholarship to play hockey at Brown. If I'm not mistaken Donald Trump is a New York Ranger fan. Because I was born in Chicago and my father was a Blackhawk fan I root for the Blackhawks ( I agree pretty lame) .  It's a weak analogy but one of the things that make the Blackhawks so good lately ( 3 cups in 7 seasons) is naturally their talent but more over their organization. If you look at their organization it is equally weighted ( not top heavy with executives). Scouting, nutrition, training all the way to Rocky Wurtz ( owner) have equal value. Something "Dollar Bill"  ( Rocky's Dad) was to unable to implement. The old King had to die ( the domineering ego power drive) before a more reasonable humble Son could take over the family business and bring championships to Chicago. The fans (mostly conservative republicans from the Suburbs use to Boo Dollar Bill when his name was mentioned) . Trump strikes me as the old guard as far as I'm concerned. Also your comments on Ali ( he could move like no other) don't resonate with me at all. Again overly simplistic. Also the Women's  article points out Don's bankruptcies ( damage and dependency) . Very different that Bernie's Wife who works in a "teen" center in Burlington Vermont. regards, 

I'm going to have to take exception to some of this, with the benefit of more than 6 months of later developments.  It turns out that Donald Trump does hang out with pedophiles and has been accused of raping women and 13-year-old girls.

Secondly, The United States of America represents the essence of the human spirit allowed to develop to its fullest potential to date.  Donald Trump does not.  

I'm happy to note that it's very rare for the schoolyard bully to be elected President of the Student Council.  Most of us aren't that dumb.  Oh yes, the "polls" say the election is equaling out, but that's just the media keeping up the hype to sell their soap, and the politicians scaring people so they'll keep donating and vote.  The truth will be known on November 8th, and like Mitt Romney, my sense is that Mr. Trump will be shocked by the result.  

I loved your paper, Julia! Thank you so much for sharing it. It doesn't lessen my worry about the fact that so many individuals seem to be losing their minds, but it at least helps me understand what's behind it. Keep writing!

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/05/pope-calls-migrant-crisi...

Even the pope residing within the walls of the vatican has now reversed his opinion on open borders for migrants. It is dnot racist to call a moratorium on migration/immigration pf muslims until a mechanism is established to sort out the good from the terrorists. That is exactly what Trump called for. And now the media reports are full of indications that the isis terrorists are using the cover of the migrant flows into europe to take their terroristic tactics to the european heartland. Khaddafy kept the migrants from invading europe via Libya. The migrants are the product of America's disruption and disintegration of Iraq syria afghanistan and Libyan societies. What about yemen... But the doeers of these dastardly deeds in their psychopathic finery are now blaming putin for the migrant blowback. 

Pope Calls Migrant Crisis ‘Arab Invasion’, Says Europe Must ‘Rediscover Its Cultural Roots’

Yes and no. Look, it wasn't some bunch of terrorists bombing my people twice in the 1990s and forcing the exodus from Croatia and Kosovo. It was "western democracy". Still, that absurd amount of savagery and violence was just warming up for what happened in the Middle East to brown people. It's not like giving ideas to anyone, but why would anyone expect a random person frustrated beyond belief to behave? "Roots" are my values and it would be nice to have them and consciously choose and participate in their creation. The problem is if I don't have them or change them on a daily basis with or without some foreign "invader". Or if I don't deserve to be a proper role-model to anyone. If bigger bombs (rifles brought to schools, more outrageous insults) are the only argument I have...

Whoever you folks elect, I don't want my child (I still don't have) live in the world where psychopaths will be writing articles such as this one: http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2016-03-07/a-70-year...

Hitler was defeated, but his value system never was.

Good morning Alexsandar- I was curious and wanted to read this article that you evaluated, allege is written by a person with "psychopathic" tendencies...I am not a worldly, politically informed or "correct" woman, however, I do know the criteria used when entertaining the use of the word "psychopath" upon someone's persona...and I just do not see this article nor that author in that light.

And then, you make a comment about Hitler being defeated, but his value system never was...and leave us hanging here...so who and where in the world is "Hitler's" value system implemented, being used today?  Peace + Love Linda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHO1vo762c - Flashback: Hillary Clinton Under "Sniper Fire" in Bosnia     The war in Bosnia and not just that Mrs. Clinton's speech was one big lie. Alija Izetbegovic (the second Muslim politician behind Fikret Abdic (he could have made the war in former Yugoslavia impossible because no one would fight against him) at the time after the elections, but mysteriously moved to the top as someone who was loud and clear about the genocide of Christians (Muslims "becoming the majority" in Bosnia). How would civilized westerners behave under the threat of genocide? How should (pro-)Russians behave under the threat of riots and neo-Nazism, economic isolation and nuclear missiles in their backyard? The concept of racial superiority among people from the West, especially because they are convinced they are "helping" someone, is a very dangerous ideology. That "expert" is perfectly aware why Russia is behaving the way it does, but he doesn't show any respect for human life. The whole Ukraine voted for separation from the Soviet Union, but the eastern part is sick and tired of riots and Orange Revolutions that are NOT elections.

On the other hand, it's pointless to comment online someone's racism such as yours (the eastern part of Ukraine doesn't have the right to think) if my parents are also racists (about the Middle East).

No name-calling allowed here.

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